tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post8543712103684735958..comments2023-09-29T02:49:02.989-07:00Comments on An Emphatic Umph: Drugs as Pedagogy, or Fostering a Relationship with the CosmosDaniel Coffeenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03912050391869734890noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-82584348666934604002011-08-27T18:05:13.871-07:002011-08-27T18:05:13.871-07:00Nice response - Absolutely - I love reading things...Nice response - Absolutely - I love reading things that cut as hard and as quickly as "Everything is co-opted. Such is the speed and vigor of capitalism." It reminds me, if you'll forgive a slightly faulty analogy, of the Texas Hold Em player going "Check raise."drwatsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16184322472302989822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-65830948098171376792011-08-27T14:50:32.224-07:002011-08-27T14:50:32.224-07:00@ Dr: Everything is co-opted. Such is the speed of...@ Dr: Everything is co-opted. Such is the speed of vigor of capitalism. All the more reason to use cliches in different ways and in different contexts. As for poor drug use, yes, most people consume drugs the way they do a job: mindlessly. But that's the drug's fault; that's their fault.<br /><br />Most people are dying due to their jobs, their lives being siphoned from them. But we don't say: "Stop working!" On the contrary....<br /><br />@ Pierre: Of course drugs pose risks. So does marriage, work, college, parenting, driving, eating, etc. And when I say youth, I am thinking of adolescents. But I am not hard and fast on that; I'd have to think about it some more.Daniel Coffeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03912050391869734890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-23241529074567597102011-08-27T10:56:57.328-07:002011-08-27T10:56:57.328-07:00Guillaule Dustan in Nicolas Pages argues such idea...Guillaule Dustan in Nicolas Pages argues such ideas, for instance he milites for a public service of night clubbing.<br /><br />I don't know if the idea of learning to kids is so reasonable, youngs ok, ok in many countries first glass of wine was given et 14 years old, ok but may be just young should be told that, as well as caring of addiction.@PierreDDNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00485581322634051533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-68819047967626067722011-08-25T20:19:02.905-07:002011-08-25T20:19:02.905-07:00I love this - but the problem I see is that the di...I love this - but the problem I see is that the discourse has been so co-opted. If this wasn't you talking and heard the sentence "we rarely teach them a relationship with the cosmos, with awe, with the infinite," I'd just sneer. And man do I not want to go into a confessional but yes, I'm on board with your sentiments. <br /><br />Just for a little background - I know we live in different coasts - but I went to Appalachian State (we got mildly popular by beating Michigan in a football game a couple years ago) which is a hippy college and known as such. Our most famous dorm, East Dorm, was featured in both Playboy and Hightimes magazine. <br /><br />Anyhow - I think a certain kind of person can do what you are suggesting and actually lives in that moment during the experience of intoxication. But the majority of people that I ran into were doing something totally different. They weren't opening up; they were shutting down. Even if they were doing an upper and talking all night and feeling as though they were experiencing a kinship of profound magnitude. <br /><br />Perhaps it's as simple as a buddy of mine used to say: If you're smart going in, you're smart while you're in and you're smart coming out. If you're dumb going in, Leave.drwatsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16184322472302989822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-88742150624726061082011-08-25T17:51:31.327-07:002011-08-25T17:51:31.327-07:00Ah, TV: Elderflower liqueur! You do know how to li...Ah, TV: Elderflower liqueur! You do know how to live....<br /><br />@ Ethan: Thanks and agree whole heartedly. But I think the really complex thing is teaching oneself, and teaching others, to walk at once in the finite and the infinite — to heed the quotidian with awe. Or something.Daniel Coffeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03912050391869734890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-25352773168310759232011-08-24T10:54:10.043-07:002011-08-24T10:54:10.043-07:00I have very little in the way of comment other tha...I have very little in the way of comment other than to say I really like this.<br /><br />Of course the "relationship to the social" that we teach kids, as you very admirably summarize it, is itself a huge part of what "obstructs" or relationship with the infinite--but of course you know that.Ethanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07498712279382078624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461948747659071092.post-21875288259726240192011-08-23T20:37:36.349-07:002011-08-23T20:37:36.349-07:00I just read this aloud to my ever-lovely... wondro...I just read this aloud to my ever-lovely... wondrous... ladyfriend.<br /><br />What a pleasure.<br /><br />What delight.<br /><br />There was a glass, cylinder — thick cylinder. Blackberries freshly picked from the bramble, shaken (hard, really hard) with just ice... to smash em'. Add a whisper of elderflower liqueur, gin, and shake it again. <br /><br />And I'm laughing, just giggling to myself, as I read this aloud.<br /><br />You're a great writer. Mighty! My great teacher. <br /><br />A many thanks, as always, your student.what the Tee Vee taughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18288852666676682547noreply@blogger.com